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on top of walking i cant even believe how many words she understands. she doesnt say any yet unless you count mumumumumumum when she's hungry/cranky, but she picks up on things mid sentence that me and my husband are saying converstationally and will either make the sign or point to the body part if appropriate. so if me and my husband are talking and we say like "hair" or "head" in a sentence if you look over she'll be like pointing to her head. i dont think she understands what "more" means but if you are talking and say it she will start making the sign.

then at dinner tonight we were asking her where things were and she could pick out things we never taught her but she would have heard before. so we asked her where her diapers were (a word she has obviously heard before) and she pointed over to where we keep them.
she can tell our two dogs apart which i think is crazy because they are both about 50-60 lbs and both black (one has some white in him but is mainly black, the other is all black)

it literally blows my mind how much they can understand.

she still cant find her nose though ;-)

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Wow! Go BabyPunk! I think this stretch in their development is so exciting -- it's like every day there's something new.

I've heard that babies that can sign often talk later because they already have an effective way to communicate. I'll bet when she talks she'll just bust out a full sentence!


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i swear it's like she gets up in the morning and is like "today i shall do THIS"
it's not like i saw her try to pull herself up to stand a bunch of times before she did it. she just did it one day. then one day she's like "ok ill let go of what im holding onto and stand unsupported" then the other day she was like "ok ill take a step today"

it's fascinating to watch. i wouldnt be surprised if she busts out a full sentence one day. she seems to communicate pretty well through pointing and her versions of signs. sometimes its a bit hard to figure out exactly what she's doing but she doesnt seem frustrated by lack of words so i guess we're good.

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Pediatrician appt today. Giles was a lunatic. Had to be weighed while held by daddy(32 lbs) and couldn't get his height because he was a bucking bronco...he cried the ENTIRE time (over an hour). They don't even get shots at the 2 year appt! Sebastian was a little cooperative lamb baby and didn't cry except a tiny little bit when he got his shots. He is already 13.6 lbs (up from 7 when he was born) 30th percentile for height and 70th for weight - bowling ball shaped :) I don't know how we got a short baby - both my husband and I are tall and Giles of course was HUGE!


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wowza! he's gonna pass BP any minute now!

sorry Giles was less than cooperative :-( that couldnt have been any fun

sounds like Sebastian is doing great!

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I've heard that babies that can sign often talk later because they already have an effective way to communicate. I'll bet when she talks she'll just bust out a full sentence!


Interesting! tiny wu is out to prove this true. We didn't do any baby sign with her, but she has made up a ton of signs and little mimes. Mr. Scandi and I tried to count all her different/distinct/consistent signs this week and came up with at least 30! Part of me really wants her to talk already, but she is a very effective communicator without speaking.


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I just measured my "baby boy" today and at 21months old, he is 27lbs even (50%) and 34¾in (85%). Nice growing, dude!

Tomorrow morning we have to get up super early to be at Children's Hospital with Sam for his allergist appointment at 8am. I cannot wait to finally figure out what is up with this boy's immune system. Too many reactions, too little time left til Kindergarten. Eeek, he starts in a month!!

On the talking end, he is all over the place. Nonstop! Sam did not even as much as babble til 2yrs old. This kid, oh man, some days, it's like SHHHHHHHH!!!! :p

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We had our first successful just for fun outing this morning! My sweetheart and I used to go to a local vegan café (Timeless, if you're ever in Oakland) on the weekends and the odd weekday - I haven't been since I went into labor with Little Nettle, so more than three weeks. She mostly slept but I was pretty excited to be out in the world and not just to go to the pediatrician.


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so after one day of trying to step on her own BabyPunk decided that was some crazy shiitake and wont step on her own anymore which is fine because she walks holding onto your hand really well now and i dont think she realizes it but she's barely holding your hand. i think it's like her walking security blankie.

she is SO PROUD of herself when she walks holding your hand. yesterday she made me walk with her all over the park and she is OBSESSED with trying stairs. we have a split level house so pretty much everything is on one floor and our one baby gate is at the top of the stairs to the basement and she's never been down them on her own so we tried all the stair like things at the park. then i wanted to go on a "real" walk around a walking trail that is about a half mile-ish long so i put her in the ergo and she protested and really wanted to walk herself so we walked VERY SLOWLY around the loop with her walking holding my hand for a LONG TIME. i couldnt believe how far she walked. the whole way she made these noises like she was so totally proud of herself and was like strutting her shiitake.
it was so insanely adorable.

today we walked across a parking lot (FUN!) then down our driveway to get the mail and around a small cul de sac across the street (EXCITEMENT!)

monday we have our 15 month pedi appt. im curious to see how much she weighs and how long she is.

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BabyPunk had her 15 month appt this morning and weighed in at a massive 16 lbs 3 oz and is 29.5 inches long.
the dr said she thought she should be a little taller based on her curve but also admitted their way of measuring isnt super accurate. she was going to recheck her from what the medical asst did but apparently forgot. i think she's probably right at 30 inches.
so she's hugging that 1% for weight and the dr said she is 9% for height.

i dont know what the heck my husband was looking at previously when he said she was like 70% for height at 12 months.

dr seemed mildly concerned she has no words yet and wont walk on her own. she asked me again about why i had gotten rid of early intervention. i think she was feeling me out about how i felt about it. i REALLY hate that anytime a kid doesnt fit into their developmental boxes they bring out early intervention like immediately. she said she was more at 13-14 months developmentally rather than 15 months. OK?!?!?!?!?!? i have a feeling when she starts going to school i am going to go through tons of annoyance.
how bout letting kids develop on their own??? dont get me wrong i think early intervention has a place and can be really valuable i just think BP has proven over and over and over she is on her own path. sometimes i feel like a broken record.
she also said based on how far she can walk holding someone's hand (FAR) that she CAN walk she just isnt ready to let go of the safety net yet. she asked me about her vision and said sometimes kids who dont walk actually have vision issues. i dont think there is anything wrong with BP's eyes but she asked me if she squinted at all or SCOWLED and i was like "ehhhhhh" i had to explain the whole unimpressed baby thing cause she TOTALLY scowls but i think it's her personality not her vision! hahaha!

the whole eating thing came up again and i literally dont know what to do about it and it causes me constant severe anxiety but i called the UMASS nutrition and growth clinic she recommended im just waiting to hear back. i WANT to believe like everything else she will get there eventually. i mean i cant force feed her obviously and she is growing and thriving. the dr said to talk to them and they may have some helpful things i can try so we'll see how that goes.

she was impressed with her cognitive skills. she can point to several body parts and things in pictures if i ask. for example she showed me an elephant in a book. the dr was really impressed by that. not sure if that's a bit ahead or what. she totally understands words she's just not using them yet and frankly im not concerned about it. she's not mute or anything, she was making an unholy racket at the grocery store today babbling at the top of her lungs.

speaking of lungs boy do they work good. she was due for 2 vax and when i say she screamed bloody murder i am not exaggerating. she turned bright red and mustered all her energy up when we laid her down and held down her leg and just let a shriek out from the depths of her soul and then when they jabbed the needle in she somehow got even louder. even the medical asst was like "WOW!" home girl has her own opinions about everything in life. what can i say she's a chip off the ol block.

they said she was done with vax until age 4 except for the flu shot. PHEW! so relieved. i am a little confused about hep A though. last time i thought they said she would get it this time and they briefly mentioned that in some places it is a concern (kids getting Hep A) but in our area it's not so maybe she's not getting it. i dunno. im not concerned i just think we may have a surprise shot crop up.

i was worried they were gonna want to draw her blood to test for anemia again since she's not eating but they didnt. phew. i dont think i could have dealt with anymore screaming.

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You might try looking at the denver developmental screening test. It gives a range of ages for when children normally develop skills, with percentiles. They also dont look for a child to have all of the age appropriate skills, only some (forget how many exactly).

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You and me are so totally opposite LP! I wish I could be more relaxed about the developmental stuff but the whole idea that intervention is more helpful the earlier it is started idea won't get out of my head. I do think it is funny how different health providers are...your doc sounding kind of worried at 15 months and my doc really very blase that at 2 years my kid has zero words...It is great though that you are already enrolled in EI so that if you do decide you want it, you probably can pick it back up fairly quickly. The developmental specialist working with giles was mentioning today that she thought it was a great sign that Giles has started mouthing everything in sight again as this type of oral-motor stimulation can be a precursor to talking. Is BP still avoiding all things in the mouth (except boobie of course)?

The Hep A is an optional vaccine given if your child will be in higher risk situations like daycare. So it is probably something you won't be getting unless you ask for it.


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i think im a little more relaxed about it at this point because Ive already been through so damn much with her. i feel like a broken record when i talk to health care providers. i mean i cant say im 100% NOT worried. it is lurking in the back of my mind but she has proven over and over and over again she WILL get there on her own terms. the walking im not worried about because she has already shown she CAN take a few steps on her own she's just scared right now. my husband reminded me she is a very cautious child to begin with so it makes sense she is unsure of walking on her own. she LOVES walking holding someone's hand so she is getting lots of practice.

the language thing worries me slightly but im trying to tell myself im not worried. i think around 12 months they are supposed to have 4 words they say reliably and understand. at 15 months she really doesnt have any. she doesnt actually say "mama" she says "mumumumumumumum" when she's hungry/angry. so if you point to me and say "who is that" she wont necessarily do it. she UNDERSTANDS tons of words though.
and like you said the EI is there if we need it and if i do think it would help i wouldnt hesitate to call. our issue is she hates strangers so that is the biggest thing keeping me from seeking intervention. instead ive upped my talking to her. i mean of course i was already talking to her and reading books and making sounds and repeating the sounds she makes but ive made an extra effort of making different sounds at her (bababababa-ball) and asking her if she can make that noise.

also she comes from a quiet household with quiet parents. sooooo there's that ;-)
she babbles A TON. she was making quite the racket at the grocery store yesterday.

im glad EI is going well for Giles. i did not know that about the mouthing! that's really interesting. BP has NEVER been an oral baby and the issue i AM super worried and stressed about is her lack of eating. i didnt ever think it would relate to her talking too! but i bet it's all tied together. i am going to take her to the growth and nutrition clinic for that. my dr said rather than someone doing something with her it was more about them talking to me so i think that will be good.

and good to know about the hep A! maybe it wont crop up then.

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It's interesting to hear both your perspectives annasrobbie and LisaPunk. Generally I do come down more on the side of "let's wait and see," but with the speech stuff, I sometimes worry a bit that there is a hidden problem, like with hearing or something. Obviously not that specifically, but you know, some problem I wouldn't have thought of. On other days, I just figure that bilingual kids often speak later, and that's the case for us too.

I've mentioned before that tiny wu is not much of a talker, even now at 21 months. There are several English and Danish words she has said extremely clearly and in the right context, but only once. Her favorite word is "mama," and that's the only word she says every day--many times! She refuses to repeat sounds or words (which is something my 15 month old niece loves to do), but she does have many signs and excellent comprehension. BabyPunk is actually doing just about exactly what tiny wu was doing, speech/language-wise, at that age. I don't know if that's encouraging to you or not, LP. Nobody here has suggested any kind of intervention, though we will see what they say at her 2 year appointment.

Also interesting about the stuff in the mouth= upcoming developments. Lately tiny wu has her toy keys in her mouth all the time, so maybe we're on the brink of something!


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at the very least we know BP's hearing is fine as a hearing test was one of the many things she was subjected too early in life. she failed the newborn hearing screening at the hospital in one ear because the equipment didnt fit her and we were forced to do a follow up test and then were even lucky enough to be billed for it!!!! yay for us! (im not bitter really....) but her hearing is perfect.

she doesnt repeat sounds back either. she looks very interested at what we're doing and seems to be taking it all in. she's just a quiet kid and it seems like from various posts that tiny wu is also a quiet kid. BP comes from quiet parents. i remember when she was newborn/infant age they always say to "talk to your baby" and tell them whats going on and what's around them, etc. I STRUGGLED with that. it;s just not natural to me. i felt like an idiot going through the grocery store and being like "so here we have some canned goods, oh and there's some ketchup, hey that's bread!" to a newborn. it just didnt come natural to me. now that she is at an age where she is comprehending things and very curious it's SO MUCH easier for me. though still if i have her in the ergo and we're out on a walk very often it's just quiet time. i have to like remind myself to snap out of it and talk about our surroundings.

in fact i swear the other day she tried to say "green"
we were on a walk around a pond and everything was green. trees, leaves,vines, bushes, shrubs, etc and i kept telling her everything that was green and this is green and green is a color and all of a sudden she was like "ga ga ga ga"
and i was like YES OH MY GOD CAN YOU SAY GREEN? (hoping to get ga ga ga again, didnt actually expect green to come out of her mouth) and she went quiet again. ha!

that was the first time she ever seemed to do anything like that that seemed like she was trying to repeat a sound or say a word

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I can so relate to the excitement when they say even a close approximation of a potential word. Everyone always told me that when your baby babbles you should talk back to them - whenever we did that he would immediately stop babbling and he still does to this day! So if he is saying something that sounds word-like and I try to encourage it by saying "yes, BAY-BEE!!!!" He shuts up immediately. Ah...parenthood.


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Lisa, who knows what BabyPunk's food issues are, but Malka ate close to nothing until at least 18 months and she is now a great eater who eats a wide variety of things. ("Great" referring to her enthusiasm and interest in variety, not size of appetite, which is small.) And she wasn't even nursing, BP is still getting great nutrition from breast milk! Also, BP is still so little, maybe she is really just not ready for it? Malka was also a small fry, still is, but she is clearly developmentally ahead if anything. I say keep offering a variety of foods and don't freak out.

I have recommended it before, but will again recommend the book "It's not about the broccoli."


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thanks Ariann, i have not read that book ill have to see if the library has it.
i read a different book called My Child Won't Eat i think and it was *ok*
it was more about super picky eaters and parents who have a set idea of how much their kid should eat rather than a kid who literally will not allow food in their mouth but what i did take from it, like you said, is she is so small that she needs so much less than other kids her age.

what's frustrating is i keep having people tell me that breastmilk isnt enough for a toddler. other than the iron (and potentially zinc, i read somewhere they might not get sufficient amounts of zinc through breastmilk after a certain point) i feel breastmilk is the best thing for her nutritionally. the Dr said something about needing more protein than what milk can provide.
i wish everyone was on the same page and dr's were more knowledgable about breastfeeding and general nutrition.

im worried about going to the nutrition clinic because of that but they should have a better grasp on nutrition.

it's good to know other people have had similar issues. i keep hearing people who have had kids who ate almost nothing until a very late point (18-24 months) but everytime i mention it to some people or health providers they are like WHAT?!?!

she's obviously growing and thriving and she's way smarter than i am. she definitely is giving me a run for my money.

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It is all fine on just bm until about 15months of age, after that, they do need more meals that have iron, zinc, protein, etc.
You are limit now. But hey, she is growing and thriving on her own curve. I would just still go see a nutritionist to get help to get her to eat foods. There might be some mouth muscle issues there that us as parents cannot see... It can definitely help, even when we feel defeated. I've been there. I know the feeling. Sam was on pureed baby jarred foods texture (like the stage 1-2 stuff) til 2.5yrs old. He still gags on a lot. And he's not a super eater in any way still at almost 6, but we've come such a long way since we got some help at 3. He now wants to eat meals! And he enjoys it.

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now my issue is making a damn appointment. the pediatrics dept at the hospital inexplicably has not been answering their phone all week.

im so unbelievably frustrated.

this is like a major hospital in a major hospital network. and no one in that dept is answering the phone. the VM says the secretary is out but messages will be picked up and returned (not).
i even called the hospital switchboard and they were like "yeah no one is answering we keep getting VM"


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So weird. I have to womder if their phone system is down? Or secretary is out and no one else handles phone calls. Still weird


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Little Nettle can roll herself over! It's alarming but also kind of reassuring. The pediatrician said that she's the youngest bebe she'd ever seen roll over - maybe that part was flattery? Regardless, I'll take it!


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Whoa! They normally roll over at 6 months. My nephew just did it at 4 months which was surprising. That's amazing! Is she small? It's easier for smaller babies to do it. Addie can do it if there's an incline (when we brought her home, we had her mattress inclined. She was swaddled and I ran up to her when I heard her crying--she had rolled on to her tummy and was stuck. That terrified me).


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